Review Nikon D5600 With a Sigms 18-250 F35-63 Lenes
Roki303 • Regular Member • Posts: 194
D5600 and Sigma 18-35 1.8 ART lens
Hello,
I recently sold my 35mm DX 1.8 lens and bought this Sigma eighteen-35 (used). I'grand very happy with the lens equally it is incredible sharp, the paradigm have this 3D pop, honey the colors and fast discontinuity. This is hands down the best lens I have used.
That being said I'g having some issue with AF. I'chiliad thinking user error but maybe not ... When shooting at 1.eight the DOF of field is very narrow. Nailing focus is critical. I used dock and tool to fine tune AF simply AF seems to be sometimes hitting and miss. The problem is that if I'm shooting charts things are OK, if I'm in the field sometimes focus is off by a bit. When using LIveView things are normally much sharper.
Am I bumping into limitations of my camera AF arrangement (D5600). I also read that lens does non have consistent AF but thought that would exist addressed via firmware update already.
Besides that dear the lens. Fifty-fifty with the bug describes above I think it is absolutely addictive (sharpness and depth of field).
OP Roki303 • Regular Fellow member • Posts: 194
Re: D5600 and Sigma 18-35 ane.eight ART lens
Every bit a follow up question / observation that seems like when using that lens mastering M mode is a must.
P is useless as it tend to favor wide open aperture, shutter seems to be low and random every bit well
A is ok but since focal length is then short that it tries to use relative low shutter speed. When things are moving in the frame that isn't working.
South is problematic and it forces fast aperture over bumping up ISO. WHen I ordinarily shoot in this mode subjects are moving and then using 1.eight discontinuity can exist hard to blast focus.
Seems like the merely way to utilize this lens is to set your aperture, shutter speed and in my case I utilize Auto ISO. Is that a mutual usage pattern for fast lenses? I wish my D5600 had a dual dials to command both discontinuity and shutter speed.
greggyh • Regular Member • Posts: 161
Re: D5600 and Sigma 18-35 1.8 Art lens
I don't know the algorithm for selecting shutter speed In Aperture Priority with Auto ISO. My judge is that it will prioritize low ISO and use relatively tedious shutter speeds because the focal length is brusk plenty that avoiding photographic camera shake doesn't require a fast shutter speed.
You lot can try setting a minimum shutter speed in the Auto ISO settings. I do this with my D7200 in Discontinuity priority mode (which is commonly broad open) when shooting in a Theater.
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Indik • Regular Member • Posts: 166
Re: D5600 and Sigma 18-35 ane.eight Fine art lens
I confirm, sigma 18-35 tin sometimes randomly miss focus with a d5600 (I had it with a d5500, which is identical)
Information technology is not related to the back/front end focus. Mine was perfect in charts, but in existent life some random shots are OOF.
I`ve got a z50 with the FTZ a few days ago, currently testing. The beginning impression is that the problem is gone. If that proves to be truthful, and then it`s not the lens, but a d5500/5600 AF module limitation.
Only the lens is and then adept I got used to information technology. It`s not frequent so didn`t bother me much.
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OP Roki303 • Regular Fellow member • Posts: 194
Re: D5600 and Sigma 18-35 1.8 ART lens
Indik wrote:
I`ve got a z50 with the FTZ a few days agone, currently testing. The start impression is that the problem is gone. If that proves to be true, and so it`s not the lens, just a d5500/5600 AF module limitation.
I would beloved to hear more on z50 + ftz + sigma 18-35 philharmonic. If only z50 had IBIS ... well possibly z70 ... or z50 mark Two
Indik • Regular Member • Posts: 166
Re: D5600 and Sigma 18-35 1.8 ART lens
Yep, no IBIS
Sigma+FTZ works merely equally a native lens would (judging from an only native Z lens I have). All AF modes in both photograph and video are supported and work without any limitations. Accurateness wide open seems to be better than on a d5500. I'll test more in the weeks to come.
Video AF is impressive - tracks my son'south face reliably in artificial light at f1.8. In that location's audio dissonance from focusing when recording to internal mic. Merely that's to be expected.
The only pocket-size difference is that on a native kit lens y'all can customize focus ring - go far control the discontinuity in video, for case. Not possible with an adapted lens. Equally a workaround camera lets you lot assign power aperture to Fn buttons if you want a polish discontinuity control in video.
Sigma 18-35, nikon's f-mount 50mm f1.8 and 85mm f1.viii piece of work really well adapted. No difference in function beetween sigma and f-mount nikkors.
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Razor512 • Contributing Member • Posts: 557
Re: D5600 and Sigma eighteen-35 one.viii Fine art lens
While the D5600 lacks AF-fine tune, it is good that many of the sigma lenses offering it via the lens dock.
Charts can be very authentic, only there are some issues with colour temperature. Sadly while it can exist stock-still in firmware, Nikon is horrible with firmware updates to recoup for things like that. Basically they hate updates that would exist seen as a performance improvement, they would instead adopt to reserve them for newer models that end upwards using the same hardware.
For f/1.eight, a single point AF works better than D9 or other modes.
OP Roki303 • Regular Member • Posts: 194
Re: D5600 and Sigma eighteen-35 ane.8 ART lens
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Razor512 wrote:
For f/1.8, a single point AF works better than D9 or other modes.
Yes, I realized that as well. Trying to apply the central signal for AF. That existence said focus and recompose with such shallow DOF has it'south own issues also because as you are recomposing you are changing (albeit slightly) altitude to your subject which volition throw what is in focus.
For certain one matter I'g learning that using shallow DOF introduces its own set of challenges.
2nd Current of air • Contributing Fellow member • Posts: 747
Re: D5600 and Sigma eighteen-35 ane.8 ART lens
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Roki303 wrote:
How-do-you-do,
I recently sold my 35mm DX i.8 lens and bought this Sigma 18-35 (used). I'm very happy with the lens equally it is incredible precipitous, the paradigm take this 3D pop, dear the colors and fast aperture. This is hands down the best lens I accept used.
That being said I'one thousand having some issue with AF. I'm thinking user error only possibly not ... When shooting at ane.eight the DOF of field is very narrow. Nailing focus is disquisitional. I used dock and tool to fine tune AF but AF seems to be sometimes hit and miss. The problem is that if I'g shooting charts things are OK, if I'g in the field sometimes focus is off by a bit. When using LIveView things are usually much sharper.
Am I bumping into limitations of my photographic camera AF system (D5600). I also read that lens does not have consistent AF but thought that would be addressed via firmware update already.
As well that dearest the lens. Even with the issues describes above I recall it is absolutely addictive (sharpness and depth of field).
Hello, from what you said Information technology seems you're not yet that skilled in photography and earlier thinking its the lens, offset eliminating user fault. 99% of these issues are user errors. Fast primes prove difficult in producing consistent results for novices and even more advanced shooters. I liken them to loftier performance race cars which handle much differently and require a special touch on. When you lot said "hit or miss" that makes me call up its either your technique, camera settings or both. Additionally the D5600 is not a D850 in its AF functioning peculiarly in low lite.
I simply got a D5600 as a meaty travel camera with the kit lens but also got a Nikon 35mm 1.8DX. The very first thing I noticed is that it (35mm 1.8) struggled to hit AF in lower lite and was in fact inconsistent. No then on my D500. In good light no issue. Ok and then what to do other than to become a pro Nikon body? Apply anything other than the P mode and don't use auto ISO. The P way supports a "Indicate & Shoot mode only should be called Point & Screw up! I modify ISO settings as often as the shutter & +/- exposure settings On D5600 you tin assign ISO to the Part push. Easy to employ just you gotta use it or... Or your images volition be striking or miss. To get the full benefits of a fast prime it takes skill. Try different AF modes and in very your light you may take to employ MF. I could merely tell you exactly what you should do but I recollect yous'll be meliorate served taking the time to slowly and methodically use your camera purchase trying different settings which along the way will make you a better photographer. You also must takes notes or yous'll be repeating your errors.
Good luck!
Razor512 • Contributing Member • Posts: 557
Re: D5600 and Sigma 18-35 1.viii Fine art lens
Roki303 wrote:
Razor512 wrote:
For f/ane.eight, a single point AF works better than D9 or other modes.
Yes, I realized that likewise. Trying to utilize the fundamental point for AF. That existence said focus and recompose with such shallow DOF has it'due south own problems as well because as you lot are recomposing you are changing (admitting slightly) altitude to your subject which will throw what is in focus.
For sure one thing I'm learning that using shallow DOF introduces its own set up of challenges.
If the photographic camera itself is in proficient calibration from the factory, at that place is no need for focus and recompose if ane of the 39 points are in a spot where you need to focus. They are all authentic, the cross type ones are merely faster.
OP Roki303 • Regular Member • Posts: 194
Re: D5600 and Sigma xviii-35 ane.eight Fine art lens
2nd Current of air wrote:
Roki303 wrote:
Hello,
I recently sold my 35mm DX 1.viii lens and bought this Sigma 18-35 (used). I'm very happy with the lens as information technology is incredible abrupt, the paradigm have this 3D pop, love the colors and fast discontinuity. This is hands downward the best lens I take used.
That being said I'thou having some issue with AF. I'm thinking user error but peradventure not ... When shooting at ane.8 the DOF of field is very narrow. Nailing focus is critical. I used dock and tool to fine tune AF but AF seems to be sometimes hit and miss. The problem is that if I'm shooting charts things are OK, if I'm in the field sometimes focus is off by a scrap. When using LIveView things are usually much sharper.
Am I bumping into limitations of my camera AF system (D5600). I as well read that lens does not accept consistent AF merely idea that would be addressed via firmware update already.
As well that honey the lens. Even with the issues describes above I think information technology is admittedly addictive (sharpness and depth of field).
How-do-you-do, from what you said It seems you're not notwithstanding that skilled in photography and before thinking its the lens, start eliminating user error. 99% of these issues are user errors. Fast primes evidence difficult in producing consistent results for novices and even more advanced shooters. I liken them to loftier performance race cars which handle much differently and require a special impact. When you said "hitting or miss" that makes me think its either your technique, photographic camera settings or both. Additionally the D5600 is non a D850 in its AF performance especially in depression light.
I just got a D5600 as a compact travel camera with the kit lens but also got a Nikon 35mm one.8DX. The very first matter I noticed is that information technology (35mm one.8) struggled to hit AF in lower calorie-free and was in fact inconsistent. No then on my D500. In good calorie-free no issue. Ok then what to do other than to get a pro Nikon body? Use annihilation other than the P mode and don't use machine ISO. The P manner supports a "Bespeak & Shoot mode but should be chosen Signal & Screw up! I change ISO settings every bit oftentimes as the shutter & +/- exposure settings On D5600 you can assign ISO to the Function button. Easy to use just yous gotta use it or... Or your images will be hit or miss. To go the full benefits of a fast prime number it takes skill. Try different AF modes and in very your light you lot may have to use MF. I could just tell you exactly what y'all should practice but I retrieve you'll be better served taking the time to slowly and methodically apply your camera buy trying different settings which along the way will make y'all a amend photographer. You besides must takes notes or you'll be repeating your errors.
Adept luck!
I'm using AF-S with Unmarried point (center, cantankerous type) and trying to be careful every bit I sympathize recompose would change distance and tin can result focus. I use Manual model (1.8f and reasonable shutter speed (in a higher place 1/100- college if I can). I employ Motorcar ISO in Manual.
What would y'all recommend I try different? How ISO can effect AF?
OP Roki303 • Regular Member • Posts: 194
Re: D5600 and Sigma 18-35 1.8 ART lens
Razor512 wrote:
If the camera itself is in good scale from the factory, there is no need for focus and recompose if i of the 39 points are in a spot where you need to focus. They are all accurate, the cantankerous blazon ones are just faster.
Interesting .. I thought cross type AF sensors are more accurate as well.
2nd Wind • Contributing Member • Posts: 747
Re: D5600 and Sigma 18-35 i.8 ART lens
Roki303 wrote:
2nd Air current wrote:
Roki303 wrote:
Hello,
I recently sold my 35mm DX i.8 lens and bought this Sigma eighteen-35 (used). I'thou very happy with the lens as it is incredible sharp, the image have this 3D popular, dearest the colors and fast discontinuity. This is hands down the best lens I accept used.
That being said I'grand having some issue with AF. I'm thinking user error but maybe not ... When shooting at 1.8 the DOF of field is very narrow. Nailing focus is disquisitional. I used dock and tool to fine tune AF but AF seems to be sometimes hit and miss. The problem is that if I'm shooting charts things are OK, if I'yard in the field sometimes focus is off by a fleck. When using LIveView things are usually much sharper.
Am I bumping into limitations of my camera AF system (D5600). I also read that lens does not have consistent AF but thought that would be addressed via firmware update already.
Too that dearest the lens. Fifty-fifty with the issues describes to a higher place I think it is absolutely addictive (sharpness and depth of field).
Hullo, from what you said It seems you're not yet that skilled in photography and before thinking its the lens, start eliminating user mistake. 99% of these issues are user errors. Fast primes bear witness difficult in producing consistent results for novices and even more avant-garde shooters. I liken them to loftier functioning race cars which handle much differently and require a special touch. When you said "hit or miss" that makes me think its either your technique, camera settings or both. Additionally the D5600 is not a D850 in its AF performance especially in low calorie-free.
I just got a D5600 every bit a compact travel camera with the kit lens only too got a Nikon 35mm one.8DX. The very first matter I noticed is that it (35mm one.8) struggled to hit AF in lower lite and was in fact inconsistent. No so on my D500. In good light no event. Ok and so what to practise other than to get a pro Nikon body? Use anything other than the P mode and don't use auto ISO. The P mode supports a "Point & Shoot style but should be called Indicate & Screw upward! I alter ISO settings as often as the shutter & +/- exposure settings On D5600 you tin assign ISO to the Function push. Easy to employ but you gotta use it or... Or your images will be hit or miss. To get the full benefits of a fast prime it takes skill. Try different AF modes and in very your low-cal you may have to use MF. I could but tell yous exactly what you should do just I think you'll exist better served taking the time to slowly and methodically use your camera buy trying unlike settings which along the way will brand you a amend lensman. You lot also must takes notes or you'll be repeating your errors.
Practiced luck!
I'one thousand using AF-S with Single point (center, cantankerous blazon) and trying to be careful as I understand recompose would modify distance and can effect focus. I use Transmission model (1.8f and reasonable shutter speed (above 1/100- higher if I tin can). I employ Auto ISO in Transmission.
What would you recommend I try dissimilar? How ISO tin outcome AF?
Hi, I never said ISO affects AF. I mentioned that because y'all said you lot utilize auto ISO which will not give you lot the best exposure nor will the P mode. Using a camera properly requires effort and my indicate was that if you want expert photos stay away from auto modes.
Indik • Regular Fellow member • Posts: 166
Re: D5600 and Sigma 18-35 ane.8 ART lens
You`re doing information technology right. The photographic camera only misses sometimes, not everything is user error.
Nikon 85mm 1.eight misses focus on my d5500 often, more the sigma 18-35 does. On the other hand, Nikon 50mm 1.8 is very reliable.
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Razor512 • Contributing Member • Posts: 557
Re: D5600 and Sigma eighteen-35 one.eight ART lens
I issue with AF-S is that if yous are hand held and are adequately close to a bailiwick, then minor movements of the camera will throw off the focus due to how shallow the DOF is.
Continue in mind that sharpness is not equal within the DOF, it is finer a bong curve of sharpness within the DOF. The issues tin get worse when you are hand holding the camera while taking a picture of some other person who may too be moving slightly.
In cases like that, you may get better results by using AF-C using a single focus point that you manually select (AF-area style set to "Single-point AF")
Simply be sure that the focus scale is set properly at multiple distances with each test repeated multiple times, (e.g., take a pic of the exam chart, and then focus on your mitt, and so focus back on the test nautical chart to ensure repeatability).
And as others have mentioned, the focus will non be perfect every fourth dimension. Furthermore, the firmware is not bug gratuitous, and Nikon probable has no intention of AF bug fixes because that will be an constructive performance improvement, which for their DSLR lines, they have historically avoided anything that would improve performance.
WPMChan • Senior Member • Posts: 1,410
Re: D5600 and Sigma xviii-35 1.8 Art lens
Roki303 wrote:
Hello,
I recently sold my 35mm DX 1.8 lens and bought this Sigma 18-35 (used). I'yard very happy with the lens as information technology is incredible sharp, the prototype have this 3D pop, love the colors and fast aperture. This is hands down the best lens I have used.
That beingness said I'm having some event with AF. I'thou thinking user error just perhaps not ... When shooting at 1.8 the DOF of field is very narrow. Nailing focus is critical. I used dock and tool to fine tune AF only AF seems to be sometimes hit and miss. The problem is that if I'one thousand shooting charts things are OK, if I'thousand in the field sometimes focus is off past a bit. When using LIveView things are commonly much sharper.
Am I bumping into limitations of my camera AF system (D5600). I also read that lens does not have consequent AF merely thought that would be addressed via firmware update already.
Besides that love the lens. Even with the issues describes above I think it is absolutely addictive (sharpness and depth of field).
I have a different experience with large aperture lens on my D5600. I take an one-time Sigma 30 mm F1.4 DC HSM. This lens used to piece of work very well on my former D40x, simply will not AF on the D5600. I need to transport the lens to Sigma Australia to have the firmware updated. Information technology works well with the D5600 at present.
This 30mm F1.4 will AF well on my D5600, even at the F1.4 both on OVF and LV, in skilful light and in low light. I have merely washed a sit-in to focus on the name plate i9950 on my printer inside the lower shelf of my desk-bound.
note the shallow DOF, the give-and-take Canon and the sticker on the side above are out of focus.
The D5600 did non have whatever trouble finding the focus in both modes. I could barely see the label on OVF. It was a lot clearer on the LCD when on LV.
Also on LV, I held the photographic camera farther from me, and much closer to the printer. The matrix metering picked up nigh of the shaded area and lifted the ISO to 12800.
I had AF-A single indicate focus on OVF and AF-S normal area focus on LV.
I don't retrieve you take bumped into the limitation of the D5600 at all.
Yous likewise have mentioned that you would similar to have control of shutter speed and aperture at the aforementioned time. I presumed that you lot were talking about shooting in M mode.
Yep, you do have. You can change shutter speed and aperture and a lot more than with your eye on the OVF. And you can see all the settings and what you are changing on the OVF.
When on Grand mode, moving the command dial will let y'all to change shutter speed. Moving the command dial with the +/- button held downward will allow you to change the discontinuity.
Farther, if y'all configure the Fn button to ISO, moving the command dial with the Fn held down will permit you to modify ISO when you lot are on manual ISO.
You can as well configure the Touch Function to ISO auto/transmission changeover. You tin changeover ISO control anytime by swiping the affect pad upward or downward when yous are using your OVF.
I gear up my Touch Function for ISO changeover. You have a pick from Eight different functions that you lot can assigned to the touch pad.
Your D5600 does have quite a lot of manual control capability congenital in equally well.
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